Fictional vs. True TUG stories

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Fictional vs. True TUG stories

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There has been a certain discussion in a story regarding whether it was true or not. As a mod, I feel the need to explain my position about it. Though the mod team doesn't have an official policy regaridng fake "true" stories, based on how we've dealt with them in the past, I think the other mods might agree with me.

True Stories, as the name suggest, are meant to tell personal experiences we've had dealing with TUGs, any fantastic story, including those based on realistic scenarios (aka. My friend tied me up in his houe all weekend without any breaks), should go to Fictional Stories. It's impossible and discouraged to check the veracity of every True Story, even those that might feel fake to some of us, could as well be real, and interrogating every writter won't be constructive. True stories can be embelished for the sake of entertanment, importan details might be left out, or just their memories might paint a different picture of what really happened. None of those aspects make these stories "fake."

But, where we draw the line, is when "true" stories glorify behaviors that are dangerous, toxic or outright illegal if replicated. In the past we have moved against "true" stories that glorified lack of consent or rape (hence we established the current rules). That's not to say that these things can't be depicted in Fictional Stories (as long as no rules are broken), there is an understanding that people will know that the actions depicted in a Fictional Story might not be accurate to reality. The problem comes when True Stories depict those actions, it gives them legitimacy and can encourage other users (particularly young ones) to follow the example. For example, parents punishing their kids by tying them up is mostly okay in a fictional story, while if presented as a true story, I would caution that behaviour can be considered child abuse.

Basically, just enjoy the stories, whether fictional or true, and only question a True Story's veracity (without harrassing the author) if you feel that they are pushing for a problematic behavior.
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Post by StealthCharlotte »

Talking about my story here?. All of it was true, but I understand why you would say it’s fictional so others don’t repeat it. That being said why wasn’t it moved to fiction instead of being deleted (even though it is true)?
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Post by bbb »

Thanks for all you do.

I have posted a few of my experiences, and while they did in each case feature risky behavior (leaving captives alone, breathplay w/o a clear safeword/sound, not having safewords in general with the understanding that the 'TOP' will respect them without reservation), I made it clear that these were really dopey things we did at the time. Thanks for keeping them in the story list. It's good to share experiences so that people's future TUGs will be fun AND safe!

That being said, I do wish our members here would be honest about 'What really happened to them' vs. 'I wish this happened'. I have to be honest: about half the stories I read in the 'True Stories' section leave me privately calling 'BS'. Maybe I'm wrong, but a lot of them have more than a bit of a fakey 'Penthouse Letters' whiff to them. It's OK to burnish little things like the dialogue, but the basic facts (what happened, methods, etc.) should be accurate, IMHO.

It's OK to have a vivid imagination; E. L. James became richer than god writing was originally fan fiction (she the author of the '50 Shades' franchise). Just post is as fiction; please don't BS us, OK?
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I sadly find myself agreeing with that as well; I think the large majority -- and it's hard to call everything as such, it really is -- is far from real.
I think a lot of people enjoy the idea that it has happened or is a realistic experience to both write it, and receive feedback for it and share these fantasies and go on. I think the ' real ' experience is much more clumsy.. silly, or a bit wacky sometimes or more intimate.

I had a friend who visited an Australian dominatrix, his experience as shared was SO different than what most would write these days.
Heck, my first tying up experience with my EX was terrible, tying her was difficult and I could not gag her proper!

Not to mention my awkward bondage with my current love where I was bound in my underwear, sweating due the heat as I tried to stumble on words how to explain my desire to be facesat; Which took 15 minutes! It would make for such a short story with such long pause and so much talk!!! :lol:
I did get the facesitting, first in my life and was it heaven; but to keep my message short, the real thing is so different and unlike stories out there.
I get that some improvise their stories to make it more fun to read or such.. but I do believe a lot is unrealistic, it's sometimes obvious really.
But so long as it doesn't cross a line, what can we do other then enjoy I suppose? Personally, I would prefer a real story!
Not that I'd write mine, it'll be so boring to read :lol:
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Post by Sian91 »

Interesting philosophical question: “is any story true?”

Fictional stories are fiction. Okay.

True stories are a memory. But your memory ! And mine! Are not perfect. We are not video recordings, films or digital files with perfect play back. Our memories are affected by feelings, but our previous experiences and our experiences since. Each time we thing about a memory it change’s slightly.

Example: think of an event. Your first tie up, your wedding, a good football match or concert. How much do you actually remember. Maybe actually remember one minute, thirsty seconds, ten seconds, hit you fill the rest.

If you wrote a wholly true story using inky what you remember it would be. “I was with my friend when she said why don’t you tie me up, so I tied her feet together and her hands behind her back and gagged her with a scarf. She struggled for a bit and escaped so she tied me up.” And that’s it.

You have to put your feelings, half remembered or imagined or wished for items or you will not write a story worth reading.


Soooo. If a story sounds too fantastic to be true, it probably is. If it sounds embellished , it could have happened. If it is boring as hell, it probably did.
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Here is, as far as I could remember it, a true story: https://tugstories.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=600

Why don't we use our experiences to give a bit of realism to our fictional stories? Here is the fictionalised version: https://tugstories.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=601
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Post by Terry »

I used to write quite a bit of fanfiction several years ago what would involve someone being tied up and gagged almost everytime. Nowadays I use ChatGPT or Character.AI what isn't always perfect but still fun nethertheless. As is is fanfiction, it is always fictional and always tends to use characters what are not human also especially the captor.
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