Gag Talking in stories ?

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Gag Talking in stories ?

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here's something I wonder about, and that is how one feels about when in a story the writer uses " Gag talk " as I tend to here it be called, to replace a gagged characters Speech, like this..

" Mmmpph ! glugghhhh ! nggpphhhh ! they began to scream or " someone help me ! " they tried to say but all that came out was " spphome hmpph mggth! "

I have read that some people don't like it when a story has the bound person's speech presented as that as apposed to saying something like " they then began to scream into their gag but all that came out was muffled sounds of course that no one could make out "

I don't know to me it's something that just wonder about how others feel, to me it never really bothers me when a story does the former, in fact I actually enjoy sometimes a bit when a story uses that take on presenting a gagged character's speech as it shows the characters struggle for speech, though I admit it can be pretty repetitive if the writer starts to rely on it constantly throughout a story, as we do get the point that the character is gagged and can not speak. but I also enjoy the latter as it does simply get across that one is unable to communicate without throwing in your face, I guess when you narrow it down it is a bit of a case of Showing and not Telling, so with that said, how do you prefer reading about a gagged persons attempt to speak out ?
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"Mmmpph" seems to be the standard used on cartoon balloons even in non-English speaking illustrations. I saw on Deviantart the other day cartoons from comic books or comic strips from a Deviant who posts illustrations of DID's by the thousands. In one a woman is sitting on the floor struggling in her bonds. She tries to speak but all that comes out is "Blub". Of course she may have been blubbering about her situation.

As a kid i recall reading a Walt Disney comic book. In it Goofy walks into his apartment (flat). It's been years since I saw that, maybe 1961 or '62 but it seems a burglar struck and left his roommate lying on his bed bound and gagged. Naive as Goofy is he thinks the roommate performed self-bondage and self-gaggage on himself. While he's Mmmpphing to be released clueless Goofy says he has a cousin who does that to himself at bedtime. He does that so he won't sleepwalk or talk in his sleep. Oh, and the words trying to come out of the roommate's gagged mouth "Mmmppsstt, Glimppsstt."

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Very interesting topic. As it happens someone wrote a nice diatribe on this a few years back.

https://www.deviantart.com/pornwriter/a ... -512270351

I personally like when the writer engages in both writing out muffled dialogue and describing it as a an action.
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I've seen all kind of variants and used them. A lot of gags allow speaking to a degree that is understandable, so it's perfectly fine to spell everything in clear text. It's also nice to shift the sounds so they fit what you'd actually hear ("Phleafe helph me") although this can be a bit tedious for the author over time. Also, you need to make compromises, the words should still be recognizable when read.

Just using Mmmph can work too and maybe you could add critical information in brackets, like "Mmmph, hmm, mph! (let me go!)".

Whatever works.

In the end, it's fiction and not realism. Care about the message you want to convey. If the gagged person should appear totally helpless make their speech impossible to decipher. If you want the reader to identify with the gagged person make their speech understandable or just write their thoughts alongside the gag talk.
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i'd love to be able to write soe nice gag talk parts into my stories, but it seems that i totally can't;
So i keep to "Hmmphm !"
Sorry.
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I love gag talking in stories. It never bothers me.
Mmmppphhh!!! a gagged guy is hard to find
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Chloe Badelaine wrote: 4 years ago i'd love to be able to write soe nice gag talk parts into my stories, but it seems that i totally can't;
So i keep to "Hmmphm !"
Sorry.
Just try gagging yourself like the character sometime and reading their' gagged lines. Then you can get a feel for how it would sound coming from a gagged captive.
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Chloe Badelaine wrote: 4 years ago i'd love to be able to write soe nice gag talk parts into my stories, but it seems that i totally can't;
So i keep to "Hmmphm !"
Sorry.
Sometimes hubby will use gag talk in his stories; he'll just take what the person is saying and muffle it. For instance, "You untie me right now, creep!" might be written "oooh uhie ee ah ow!!" Just close your mouth, and say what you want your character to say, and best you can, write out what you're hearing.
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Post by phantom_042907 »

I enjoy writing gag talk and putting it as an action I do both in my stories however I just Use "Mmphmff!!!" or some other shorter variants of it because I'm not sure how to write things like that and make it sound or look right for example I want my sao oc Lisa to get kidnapped tied up and gagged and while she's being tortured she might say something like "you'll never get away with this" or "let me go now" or just in general her screaming help but making It or turning it into gag talk is hard especially since the kidnapper might use a super effective gag so I need suggestions on what kinda gag is most effective in a scenario like the one I mentioned because in my stories I use stuffed and tape gagged or a cloth gag but I don't think those can effectively silence someone. so your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Alboreland »

I like when both are used. The general "mmphf" can be used most of the time, but sometimes the actual sounds help the story. For example, if two people are trying to get loose and are communicating with gag talk then the actual sounds can put the reader in the story.

One tied and gagged person can be trying to tell another person tied and gagged to position their hands a certain way so they can work together to get untied or tell them to reach for a pair of scissors nearby.The gag talk can be confusing and is part of the story as they try to understand each other so the actual gag talk sounds make the story better.

I also like the non verbal cues. A bound and gagged person can do alot with their eyes and simple head movements.

Sometimes the gag isn't very effective and thebpersons gag speech adds to the story.
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Gags don't perfectly muffle speech. Some mouth sounds are more affected by gags than others. Also depends on the gag, of course. For my own attempts at writing, I usually write out what the gagged is saying, practice the line as if I were gagged, and edit out the affected letters. It's not perfect, but it's fine.
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I've had ton of comments over the years, many of them pertaining specifically to gag speech and how enjoyable many find it to be.
Definitely something popular with the readers on here.
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