Bondage media that actually made you feel uncomfortable.

[BoundJana]

Having just watched that particular Futile Struggles video Ican really understand your feelings about it, yikes that didn't look good at all. For me ir looks like consent was either broken or at the minimum stretched to it's farest limits, the model didn't seem to enjoy it anymore after the point. I would have really prefered if the studio would have included a post-shooting interview, because she really looks miserable during parts of the shoot. No idea why the studio decided to not cut out these parts.

Same goes for the artist Gronc. I've seen his work before and I share your opinions, the stuff he draws and the conclusions of the scenes are all quite disturbing. I think he even got banned from DA for this, I remember that the artist reptileye once almost got banned too because one of his comics in which a woman was strangled to death while being raped was really bad taste, made my stomach turn too.

Nevertheless I would put two other mentions in the thread, an artist as well as a video. The artist in question goes by the name Celestin (also known as Fansadox and DOfantasies) and usually makes BDSM comics, but with quite disturbing content. I am talking about death traps, rape, mutilations, bestiality, incest - the whole package. For me personaly he is just putting all the things I fullheartedly dislike in his works.

The video I mentioned was made by a studio which I can't remember, but it looked fine for the first few minutes. A woman tied on a wooden bench/chair in a shed or something, which another woman is entering who's interrrogating the captive. Some talk here and there before the interrogator suddenly pulls out a strap-on dildo which was - no joke - as large and as thick as a human arm. Even the biggest Bad Dragons looked small in comparison to that monster. When she forced the dildo in the captive's mouth and down her throat my gag reflex was triggered by simply looking the video and I quickly felt physically ill. The camera also choose to use a lot of close-ups of the captive's face and she was really troubling with the shoot, couldn't enjoy this video one bit.

[Pantyhose971]

Might worth reading it. He uploaded the video back on his site and wrote a long message with it and telled about the experience.

I still don't like the vid, but it is some good information.

[banshee]

I remember that the artist reptileye once almost got banned too because one of his comics in which a woman was strangled to death while being raped was really bad taste, made my stomach turn too.

Yeah Repiteye can get pretty carried away with his stuff more often than one would think. This really can catch anyone who isn't familiar with him by surprise because most of his drawings are pretty normal when it comes to bondage stuff, but then he posts gore or some type of brutal context in a comic and things get much darker.

I don't want to say that he shouldn't draw that because he should draw whatever he wants, and I also know that some times he simply draws what comisioners ask him to draw, but I'd be lying if I said that I would rather not have seem some of his drawings.

[illest]

I will say for a different reason than most of the other material discussed so far I can't bring myself to rewatch Natali DeMore videos. Not only because she's dead, but the way she died. It's troubling to think of how depressed she really was, and when I see videos featuring her all I can think of is "Damn, I wish things didn't end the way they did for her". She actually was in some of my favorite videos; there's one with Loren Chance she did and one with Sinnamon Love that would rank among my favorite videos.

[Pantyhose971]

I will say for a different reason than most of the other material discussed so far I can't bring myself to rewatch Natali DeMore videos. Not only because she's dead, but the way she died. It's troubling to think of how depressed she really was, and when I see videos featuring her all I can think of is "Damn, I wish things didn't end the way they did for her". She actually was in some of my favorite videos; there's one with Loren Chance she did and one with Sinnamon Love that would rank among my favorite videos.

Yes I have the same issue. She played in a lot of awesome vids, but since I found out she is dead, I don't watch her that much.

[roompatrol]

Sorry to bump this thread but this is a fascinating topic. I will say that when I was younger I was on the same page as many of you in preferring "love bondage" producers like Jim Weathers to rougher stuff like Insex. Preferences do continue to evolve, though, and there's a lot out there to see and experience. Know where to draw the line but try to keep an open mind.

That said, a few scenes come to mind:

A Realtimebondage shoot featuring Penny Barber in a predicament where she's repeatedly forced to choose between supporting her body weight on a rope knotted around her neck or getting shocked -- hard! Understandably she's a bundle of nerves coming down after the scene is done and when a female PA checks in with her she abruptly bursts into tears and needs to be comforted. She's back to her usual bratty self in the next scene but it did give me pause the first time I watched it.

Another one is a shoot with Drea Morgan modelling a Mouthlock device, basically a strapless ring gag that expands in the mouth until it can't be dislodged without help. Anyone who has seen Drea's shoots with Lew Reubens knows she's a trooper and can take some incredibly stringent ties but the amount of access and control this device gave to her throat and gag reflex terrified her. As an on-screen top plays with her mouth and steadily forces his fingers down her throat you can see the uneasiness in her face. Genuinely panicked, she finally sobs "please stop!" through the drool and fingers. To his credit, the guy gets it right away and immediately backs off so that she can compose herself.

[taytay]

All the girls hired by futilestruggles are professional models... trust me none of them are genuinely in distrees. They’re always before and after videos and it’s obvious they they’re into it and while yes ther may be some discomfort them, ultimately it’s something they enjoy. Nobody is going to be willingly tied up and not want it and genuinely cry to get out. They have safe words, everyone who works is a professional. No reason to get uncomfortable insofar as being concerned for the well being of the models chosen.

[Terry]

Violence and porn.

Needs to be more clean tie-ups without the xxx stuff. Especially in Google searches when searching the word bondage. Like if I want to read fiction based around robberies and kidnaps what involve tie-ups.

[illest]

So as I look further into it this gets more interesting. So looking on Reddit apparently this Staysha woman was actually a escape artist. There's even a YouTube link to one of her shows. Also I've never seen any other bondage videos involving her outside of this one.

It's just bizarre...

[Kyle]

Scenes are hard to enjoy if I know they're based on a true crime.

[JFBound]

Videos that portrayed a controlling partner, forced groping or penetration, or human trafficking. Those are serious and terrible enough things in the real world.

[Terry]

I didn't really like the one in Aladdin where he got tied up and gagged but then the scene got ruined by the bad guys trying to drown him while using restraints to keep him under the water.

[Detective-Gag]

I didn't really like the one in Aladdin where he got tied up and gagged but then the scene got ruined by the bad guys trying to drown him while using restraints to keep him under the water.

I know where you’re coming from…the tying up & gagging scenes are pretty great in Disney; the peril is surprisingly dark.

Never really liked the dangers; but I was willing to ignore them; provided the characters ended up safe.

Even “The Hunchback of Notre Dame” teetered on the edge for me when Quasimodo and Phoebus got tied & gagged, and were about to be hanged…again, it didn’t happen, so no harm done…but y’know.

[ExcessivelyCurious]

I can certainly agree with that; I don't like scenes where the character gets seriously hurt. Some peril if they're ultimately fine can be alright, but it depends. Very obvious mortal peril is definitely an issue.

[bound773]

I've seen some pretty intense bondage/rape fantasies played out on Kink. Princess Donna was the actress in one of them where I thought at some point she would ask for it to stop. After seeing more and more of her work I realize that is just her kink. She makes the scene very believable either as a good actress, or she is acting out her fantasy. Most likely a mix of both. Some women really do love rough sex and she is one of them.

The stuff that I can't watch has little to do with bondage and more with the S/M part of BDSM. The needles, the genital torture, the over the top anal gaping....that is like watching GG Allin hurt himself. It's a freak show to me. To someone else it's sex. I am not going to judge but I certainly find nothing erotic about that.

Some of the shoots that Sahrye does are incredibly erotic. Abduction fantasy plus the objectification of her beauty. I love that girl. There are some people who would never be able to handle that strict style of restraint. They wouldn't see the difference between Sahrye hogtied and gagged and the hardcore "sex in bondage" you get on Kink. Some people don't have a kink or a fetish.

My sweet spot is somewhere between Sahrye and Donna. No needles, no floggers but strict restraint and eventually, sex.

[illest]

Saw one on BoundHub that made me quite uncomfortable. It was a Asian video with breath play where the woman was tied in an innocious chair-but she had bandage tape wrapped around her face. Usually in this type of scene the nose is not taped but in this scene the nose was also wrapped around. It must have been breathable at least to an extent because the scene lasted 10+ minutes without much issue.

Near the end of the video, the lady doing the gagging after playing with the captive for a bit decides to add more tape wrapping around the face, including the nose. As she is still long enough for the cameraman to show her bonds, suddenly she goes into panic mode and wiggles like crazy trying to get out! The women is walking seemingly trying to get her to calm down but she wiggles so much that she nearly slams herself to the floor while tied. The women is barely able to grab the chair enough to cushion most of the blow but it was still a hard enough fall to concern me. Even after, the woman and the cameraman doesn't help her for 10 more uncomfortable seconds. The woman is just left to wiggle like crazy before the video ends.

[angim350]

I think I would agree with the general consensus here. I'm really not into hardcore stuff at all where a person is in pain. Even fictional stuff where a victim is in some sort of danger is okay as long as it has a happy ending for them.

If we are sticking to general media, I would say the book "Let's go Play At the Adams" was one of the most horrible things I've ever read. I discovered it was a book where a group of kids tie up their babysitter and essentially torture her. I was warned it was dark but curiosity got the better of me... and dayum guys.

Ironically, it's a very well written piece of work, and yes, you get plenty of bondage. The victim is tied up pretty much every way you can and she's utterly helpless. But it's very dark and not something I could recommend. It haunted me for a long time after reading it.

[AlexUSA3]

I think I would agree with the general consensus here. I'm really not into hardcore stuff at all where a person is in pain. Even fictional stuff where a victim is in some sort of danger is okay as long as it has a happy ending for them.

If we are sticking to general media, I would say the book "Let's go Play At the Adams" was one of the most horrible things I've ever read. I discovered it was a book where a group of kids tie up their babysitter and essentially torture her. I was warned it was dark but curiosity got the better of me... and dayum guys.

Ironically, it's a very well written piece of work, and yes, you get plenty of bondage. The victim is tied up pretty much every way you can and she's utterly helpless. But it's very dark and not something I could recommend. It haunted me for a long time after reading it.

After reading some summaries, sounds like a plot filled with numerous holes that never would have passed the scratch test in any era of history. Criticism aside, you forgot to specify that it's a book where a group of kids tie up their babysitter, torture her, r-pe her, and then murder her.

That said, Boundhub has been getting increasingly disturbing content uploaded to it, including a lot of videos that have absolutely zero bondage elements and glorify both r-pe and murder.

[angim350]

I think I would agree with the general consensus here. I'm really not into hardcore stuff at all where a person is in pain. Even fictional stuff where a victim is in some sort of danger is okay as long as it has a happy ending for them.

If we are sticking to general media, I would say the book "Let's go Play At the Adams" was one of the most horrible things I've ever read. I discovered it was a book where a group of kids tie up their babysitter and essentially torture her. I was warned it was dark but curiosity got the better of me... and dayum guys.

Ironically, it's a very well written piece of work, and yes, you get plenty of bondage. The victim is tied up pretty much every way you can and she's utterly helpless. But it's very dark and not something I could recommend. It haunted me for a long time after reading it.

After reading some summaries, sounds like a plot filled with numerous holes that never would have passed the scratch test in any era of history. Criticism aside, you forgot to specify that it's a book where a group of kids tie up their babysitter, torture her, r-pe her, and then murder her.

That said, Boundhub has been getting increasingly disturbing content uploaded to it, including a lot of videos that have absolutely zero bondage elements and glorify both r-pe and murder.

Sorry, I deliberately didn't say the ending as it is too dark and didn't want to spoil the book if anyone wanted to read it, but yeah, I absolutely should have specified that. My bad!

[Sablesword]

The non-fiction 'how to' *Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns* bothered me because it warns about rope bondage and physical restraint in general being risky edge play and suggests that the reader instead use D/s substitutes for actual bondage.

The thing that attracted me to the Damsel-in-Distress trope is that it involved full-on bondage with a convention of "nothing really bad actually happens to the captive." Except I find, more and more, that I don't care for even the distress and peril parts, while the tendency among DiD producers and fans is to subvert the "nothing really bad" convention to 'improve' things.

I have a love/hate relationship with the GOR novels. It has elements I find really hot and elements that hit my ick and squick buttons. My first novel (and its sequels) was/is in large part both a homage to and an answer-back to GOR.

I've found that most 'bondage' fiction out there is actually BDSM fiction, full of stuff on the SM and harsher D/s end: Pain, discomfort, humiliation, and degradation. And when I've asked about bondage fiction that leaves those things out, the responses make me feel like a character in the Monty Python Spam skit. "Well, there's this story, with SM bondage SM degradation and SM - it only has a *little* SM in it."

It took me years to develop a good, concise formulation of my own preferences: "Fantasies of happy comfy female enslavement with lots of bondage and hold the SM please." (Also tickling that isn't tickle-torture but rather something the 'lee looks forward to and enjoys. "I beg the tickle, master!" rather than "No! Please! Anything but tickling!") No doubt "female enslavement" will make some here feel uncomfortable, even with the "fantasy" and "happy comfy" parts, but I can hope that the "lots of bondage" part will let me be accepted here.

[silvertejp590]

This one’s pretty mild, but one time I saw this scene from FM where Natasha Warner is playing a bride-to-be who gets tied up in her wedding dress and the whole concept just bums me out. I don’t like seeing bondage connected to things that are supposed to bring happiness and joy.

Also, I sometimes go on Google Books and search for fiction by phrases that might be of interest to me (“duct tape gag”, “taped her mouth shut”, etc.), and there have been some novel passages I’ve read that are very disturbing and would much rather forget. I’ve also found some really good literary DiD material that way! But the bothersome stuff generally deters me from that.

[cellofello]

The used to be a site called Insex. Though the site is defunct, their old videos are still floating around. They were infamous for extreme scenes. If you run across anything from that site, you need to be aware of what kind of content you might be seeing if you watch it.

[Alboreland]

This one’s pretty mild, but one time I saw this scene from FM where Natasha Warner is playing a bride-to-be who gets tied up in her wedding dress and the whole concept just bums me out. I don’t like seeing bondage connected to things that are supposed to bring happiness and joy.

Also, I sometimes go on Google Books and search for fiction by phrases that might be of interest to me (“duct tape gag”, “taped her mouth shut”, etc.), and there have been some novel passages I’ve read that are very disturbing and would much rather forget. I’ve also found some really good literary DiD material that way! But the bothersome stuff generally deters me from that.

Natasha Warner is one of my favorites. She has great gag talk.

[silvertejp590]

This one’s pretty mild, but one time I saw this scene from FM where Natasha Warner is playing a bride-to-be who gets tied up in her wedding dress and the whole concept just bums me out. I don’t like seeing bondage connected to things that are supposed to bring happiness and joy.

Also, I sometimes go on Google Books and search for fiction by phrases that might be of interest to me (“duct tape gag”, “taped her mouth shut”, etc.), and there have been some novel passages I’ve read that are very disturbing and would much rather forget. I’ve also found some really good literary DiD material that way! But the bothersome stuff generally deters me from that.

Natasha Warner is one of my favorites. She has great gag talk.

Not to get too OT in this thread but oh my gosh, yeeeeees, I love her. The one where she gets taped to an office chair by Nikki was one of the early FMC scenes I ever saw and remains one of my favorites. I wish she'd done more bondage, with FM or elsewhere.

[Alboreland]

This one’s pretty mild, but one time I saw this scene from FM where Natasha Warner is playing a bride-to-be who gets tied up in her wedding dress and the whole concept just bums me out. I don’t like seeing bondage connected to things that are supposed to bring happiness and joy.

Also, I sometimes go on Google Books and search for fiction by phrases that might be of interest to me (“duct tape gag”, “taped her mouth shut”, etc.), and there have been some novel passages I’ve read that are very disturbing and would much rather forget. I’ve also found some really good literary DiD material that way! But the bothersome stuff generally deters me from that.

Natasha Warner is one of my favorites. She has great gag talk.

Not to get too OT in this thread but oh my gosh, yeeeeees, I love her. The one where she gets taped to an office chair by Nikki was one of the early FMC scenes I ever saw and remains one of my favorites. I wish she'd done more bondage, with FM or elsewhere.

I agree. I think she really tried to talk with the gag and not just make noises. I love the scene when she is tied with Sadie Moreau and they attempt to talk to each other.